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 DrMooman 
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Posted : 03 Dec 2016 - 19:24   Post title : Rear Wheel Guide
 
It took me a while, but I got there. The only fail was I just couldn't get the tyre on using dishwashing soap and had to take it to someone with tyre grease.

My bearings didn't need doing so I haven't written that up, but other than that I hope this guide is more useful than previous ones I've seen. Not that many of you already savvy people will need it. But for anyone new to the process I hope this helps and for already competent people a useful reminder.

Enjoy

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 davetac1 
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Posted : 10 Dec 2016 - 13:22   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: DrMooman)
 
What ya wanna use is Rubber lube,or equivilent [available at most auto parts stores] to lube the beed of the tire.Soap will work,but will also create rust and or oxidation around the beed of the aluminum wheel, hence creating, a sealing problem.[been there and done that a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago]

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 DrMooman 
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Posted : 10 Dec 2016 - 15:02   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: davetac1)
 
Thanks dave- I'll add that to the guide.


Red rubber grease, or silicone grease- think they are quite similar

The guy at the tire shop used 'tire grease' and it was white. I imagine they are all similar. The key point- don't use dish washing liquid as stated in many guides.

But then i couldn't find much of a clear guide on what to clean the tire with- brake cleaner works amazing on foot pegs for stopping them from being slippery in the wet- I wonder if that will be any good on tires?

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 davetac1 
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Posted : 10 Dec 2016 - 20:25   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: DrMooman)
 
Armorall Protectant [available every where] also works well to clean,protect, and make the side walls shine.Just try not to get any on the tread or you could fall down and go BOOM on a corner. However,it will wear off after a few turns,[naturally,traveling slow],so just be aware of that!!

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 beast1700 
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Posted : 13 Dec 2016 - 15:21   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: davetac1)
 
I have been using rhue glide for the last 40 years great for all rubber applications

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 DrMooman 
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Posted : 13 Dec 2016 - 18:48   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: beast1700)
 
Do you really mean "rhue glide" that doesn't give me anything in google search

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 edmontonstorm 
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Posted : 20 Dec 2016 - 20:59   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: DrMooman)
 
it would be nice to have a lift, my back does not allow me to manhandle to many things to low or i am or could be down and out for 3 days crawling the pisser like a child only one lift i know of worth the money for these bikes and is 1k pop, not sure if i want to spend it for this bike alone.


 
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 DrMooman 
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Posted : 21 Dec 2016 - 19:53   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: edmontonstorm)
 
I got the Big Blue Easy Rizer, made in the UK but they ship internationally.

You can only use it if you don't have the dresser kit on. It is a little fiddly but very sturdy once attached. I would like them to develop a jack-be-quick style attachment to make it even easier to use. Drive on, clip and up. Maybe I'll make one one day.

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If you have space for a table lift, then do that and install the Jack be quick adapters. That could be used with the dresser kit and would be the quickest option if you have the space.

I've seen others and thus have thought about digging out the floor in the garage to put in a table lift flush with the ground. But when i thought about the effort and cost involved in that, the Big Blue seemed the best option.

My lift was ??400 I think. I don't regret it. I'm youngish and I find it a great help.

Good luck and happy tinkering

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 Snoopyktfc 
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Posted : 06 Jun 2020 - 08:49   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: DrMooman)
 
Seconded on the Big Blue with Third adaptor plate.

Very stable and quick once you've done it a couple of times.
I winter store the bike on maximum height with a padlock thru the lift mechanism to prevent it being lowered.
Easy for winterising, no load on tyres or suspension, and very difficult to steal

 
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 RodneyClark 
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Posted : 19 Oct 2020 - 16:56   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: Snoopyktfc)
 
and a tough one. If there is something wrong then it will take its time to prepare for the next ride. But I like this about it.

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 aussietbird 
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Posted : 05 Dec 2020 - 02:08   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: DrMooman)
 
I did my rear tyre last weekend, and once again had zero issues using neat concentrate dishwashing liquid, being a hotter day I would have almost described it as, it almost fell on the rim. Maybe I'm just an old hand at it, maybe it is the type and model tyre I use.

But an extra tip.

What used to be a red dot on the tyre sidewall, indicated the position of the tyre on the rim in relation to the valve stem.
Well on the Michelin Commanders that is now a white barcode on the tyres bead. (that may also be the case for other manufactures and models, I honestly don't know as I use nothing but commanders on both bikes)



Anyways, For the last 8 tyre changes I have lined up this barcode thingy perfectly everytime and have been happy upon placing it on the balancer, not to have needed to stick weights on the rim to balance it.

And then when you consider I achieve greater than 25,000k's out of a rear, everytime every tyre, with absolutely zero, tell tale signs of an out of balance issue.



 
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 Leethal 
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Posted : 05 Dec 2020 - 06:23   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: aussietbird)
 
I fitted and balanced my current rear Commander 3, didn't know about the barcode sticker, it balanced up pretty easily anyway. I also use dishwashing liquid.

 
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 aussietbird 
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Posted : 05 Dec 2020 - 10:34   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: Leethal)
 


Hey Lee

It took me a week at 100 miles a day, to get my head around the new commander 3, just couldn't feel confident, not like the 2, but they do say they have changed the profile.

But I have its measure now, and it loves being chucked into corners, with less effort.

With the new profile, it will be interesting to see if the longevity is as good as the 2, here's hoping.


 
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 Leethal 
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Posted : 05 Dec 2020 - 21:54   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: aussietbird)
 
I have to say I transited from 2 to 3 with no doubts or issues, but as I'm now riding two cruisers like you it's a new experience every ride.

 
Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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 tamboritha 
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Posted : 09 Dec 2020 - 23:00   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: Leethal)
 

Leethal wrote:

I fitted and balanced my current rear Commander 3, didn't know about the barcode sticker, it balanced up pretty easily anyway. I also use dishwashing liquid.


morning lee and others if you look on the ingredients of dish washing liquid you will see they contain salt, lots of it...As mentioned above the long term effects on the rims could be quite harmful...Anyway , lifes good and will try and meet up again

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 Leethal 
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Posted : 12 Dec 2020 - 00:36   Post title : Re: Rear Wheel Guide (Re: tamboritha)
 
G'day Greg, I wasn't aware of the salt factor but so far no issues from that. The only corrosion I had ( and I have chrome rims) is from using the product True Blue Goo once when I got a flat on a Flocking ride. The product worked well but the next time I had a rear tyre fitted there was obvious damage from the goo which I had to repair, despite the goo supposedly being water based and alloy friendly. I am coming down for the Canberra flocking, love to see you there.

 
Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.